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fameart charger manualTo start viewing messages,It seems to have a constant slow charge of 170mA. I know that smart chargers with deltaV termination etc are better, but are they really needed. I don't want to ruin the Eneloops and will buy a better charger if you all think it is necessary. A recommendation of a UK supplier would be greatly appreciated.It seems to have a constant slow charge of 170mA. A recommendation of a UK supplier would be greatly appreciated. It's not an ideal charger for daily use, but if you can live with the charging time it will do the job.I have spent some time reading up more on NiMH technology and learnt a lot in the process. GP NiMH batteries can be trickle-charged at 0.1C continuously for one year without leakage or explosions. The topic of slow charging was also covered: As previously mentioned, the cell design applies the concept of oxygen recombination in lowering the battery's internal oxygen level during standard charging. I can now see that with the Fameart's 0.0875C charge rate overcharging is not much of an issue. I don't have to worry about remembering how much charge was left in the cell (and therefore how much charge it needs) since a little extra charge won't do much harm.Admittedly this is somewhat academic since few consumer chargers are actually designed to charge at the 1 to 2 amp rate that would be necessary to achieve this, but it is worth knowing. So while you don't have any urgency to replace your current charger, if at some point you do consider upgrading to a better charger, it would be worth bearing this in mind.I wasn't aware that the process of fast charging could give better performance. I have found this good deal that I will get should I ever upgrade: Maha PowerEx MH-C401FS Normally ?35 but being sold at ?20. Up to 1000mA charge rate and 4 independant channels - seems ideal.It's not an ideal charger for daily use, but if you can live with the charging time it will do the job.http://www.spinningtop.org.uk/uploads/elna-sewing-machines-user-manual.xml

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However, the charging efficiency also varies between cells. I believe that Eneloops, for example, have a very good charging efficiency. However, since it does no harm to charge at a 0.1C rate for longer than the minimum it is quite OK to leave the batteries on charge for another few hours if you want to be really sure they are fully charged. The best thing to do in any particular case is to experiment with charge times and pick the shortest charge time that seems to give good results. With Eneloops you can use a volt meter and measure the voltage when you remove the cell from the charger. If the voltage fresh off the charger is in the range of 1.45 to 1.50 volts then you can assume the cell is fully charged. You can measure voltage with other cells than Eneloops too, but the exact voltage to look out for might be different.Because there is no harm to overcharge at 0.1C, I think it's better to do so rather than undercharge.Because there is no harm to overcharge at 0.1C, I think it's better to do so rather than undercharge. In fact the MQN-06 is a smart charger that will automatically stop charging when the cells are full rather than overcharging. It will not apply 3000 mAh of charge to 2000 mAh Eneloops.Using this charging system, the expected charging time will be about 1.1h. Secondly, the cell capacity is measured under the IEC standard conditions. The IEC standard charge provides a deliberate overcharge of the cell to ensure it is fully saturated before discharge and to remove any uncertainty due to variation of charge acceptance between cells.Please re-size your image to 800X600. Thanks. The reason the IEC Standard Charge is not recommended for normal charging is because there are many times when a cell will be recharged when it is only partially discharged. Since NiMh chemistry suffers damage from over charging (even at 0.http://tomaszskiba.com/userfiles/elna-sewing-manuals.xml1C although at this charge rate the damage is minimal over a short term of a couple of hours), it is better to charge at a faster rate and utilize proper charge termination. What is very interesting about the Sanyo data sheets is that they use the same -dV value (10 mv) for NiMh cells that they use for NiCd cells. Most people use 4 - 5 mV when charging NiMh and find that the cells don't heat up as much and they get better life from them. TomMost batteries don't die - they are tortured to near death, then murdered. A recommendation of a UK supplier would be greatly appreciated. I got one of these last year Universal charger for AAA, AA, C, D, PP3 Batteries, with LCD display. 7th one down the page ?16.99 Cheap and cheerful, but appears to work OK.For a part charged battery it does a discharge, wait, charge cycle, for a dischargerd battery it skips the discharge and the wait and gets on with the cycle. All 6 bays are completely independent, which means you can charge different battery types at the same time.I got one of these last year Universal charger for AAA, AA, C, D, PP3 Batteries, with LCD display. 7th one down the page ?16.99 Cheap and cheerful, but appears to work OK. For a part charged battery it does a discharge, wait, charge cycle, for a dischargerd battery it skips the discharge and the wait and gets on with the cycle. I mean if you only use half the charge is wastes the other half. Is it still possible for a charger to recognise -dV on a part charged cell. It looks a great charger for the money I am just trying to understand!I mean if you only use half the charge is wastes the other half. It looks a great charger for the money I am just trying to understand! Technically though, both NiMH and NiCd chemistry perform best with a full discharge between charges. Repeated shallow charging of NiMH can cause poor performance.Technically though, both NiMH and NiCd chemistry perform best with a full discharge between charges.http://gbb.global/blog/dell-powerconnect-2016-manual Repeated shallow charging of NiMH can cause poor performance.It just seems what you and Battery University say is contradictory It just seems what you and Battery University say is contradictory However, as with many kinds of advice, it is difficult to give advice that is general and understandable without simplifying some of the details. Let's take them one by one: Avoid too many full cycles because of wear. The lifetime of a NiMH cell is measured in the number of charge cycles before the performance reduces unacceptably, but the number of charge cycles you will get varies a lot with charging conditions. So charging a nearly full cell could lead to overcharge, and that could be as damaging as a full charge cycle. Do not discharge before each charge. Generally speaking this is accurate because it is unnecessary to discharge first. On the other hand, it won't particularly harm the batteries to discharge them first, and it might possibly be better for them by refreshing them and by avoiding the possibility of overcharge. Even though it is not strictly necessary to discharge fully before charging every time, it is important to discharge fully at least some of the time. Every three months is a kind of average number, and might be more, or might be less, depending on your usage pattern. What is the summary then. Well the typical good lifetime of a modern NiMH cell is reckoned to be about 500 cycles. In adverse circumstances that could be reduced to 100 cycles or less. If, like me, you have batteries in a digital camera that get recharged once every three months or so, the batteries will outlast you. So the short answer is that unless you are a particularly heavy user you are likely to lose or dispose of your batteries for other reasons before you use up their cycle life. Therefore it is easy to over think the effect of full discharges on battery life.I mean if you only use half the charge is wastes the other half. It looks a great charger for the money I am just trying to understand! The discharge takes about 10 mins, the pause before charging takes perhaps another 5 minutes. For the money its a great charger but because its a 'special' they may not have them in the store for a while.For 9V cells it is 11 V but again AC. Current going into one battery is just 40 mA, instead of the declared 170 mA. Could owners of PC14 confirm that their charger behaves in the same way or differently. I would have purchased PC15, but it seems that PC15 does not have capability to charge 9V batteries, and that discouraged me from purchasing it.I suggest getting a nice charger from - they carry some 4-bay independent channel smart chargers at a good price and also the LaCrosse BC-900. Take a look at the eneloops too!I suggest getting a nice charger from - they carry some 4-bay independent channel smart chargers at a good price and also the LaCrosse BC-900. Take a look at the eneloops too! They sell eneloops with the chargers almost at the price of eneloops alone (ca. 1.5 GBP higher in the case of PC14 and 2 GBP higher with PC15, than eneloops alone). Besides PC14 can charge 9V batteries, while LaCrosse BC-900 and Maha MH-C9000 can't. But the question is can PC14 really charge them with such strange readings shown on multimeter?More importantly, onto your question. As for your current charger. I think it should be OK, some very cheap design chargers will be supplying a lot of ripple to the batteries which might be what you are seeing. It probably has no smoothing on the DC output - it's just rectified. How were you measuring the current. It should show more than 40mA. What size battery were you using when you measured 40mA?That charger cannot charge one battery by itself.That charger cannot charge one battery by itself. I meant that there were two batteries, and I took measurement on one of them.I meant that there were two batteries, and I took measurement on one of them. It's very unlikely the actual current would be so different from the specified current.It's very unlikely the actual current would be so different from the specified current. Battery was inserted only partly (i.e. only the other end of the battery was touching the other connector in the charger). The second battery of the pair was put normally (was inserted as it should be inserted).Image resizer by SevenSkins. Imagine that this responsive data-sheet is included in the product page of your webshop. How to integrate Icecat LIVE JavaScript. A manufacturer can have multiple brand names. Some manufacturers license their brand names to other producers. Product name is a key part of the Icecat product title on a product data-sheet. Multiple product codes can be mapped to one mother product code if the specifications are identical. We map away wrong codes or sometimes logistic variants. But the data-sheet is not yet standardized by an Icecat editor.Product colour: Silver. Battery recharge time: 3 h. Battery performance: 2000 mAh Please contact your account manager at Icecat. As Full Icecat channel partner login to see all product data or request a Full Icecat subscription. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. In this Buyer's Guide, Rebecca Bradley looks at the latest battery chargers on the market. Gone are the days of film, when the camera only needed a modicum of power to fire the shutter, and, for more sophisticated cameras, activate the focus and metering. The digital camera does all that, but provides a large colour LCD screen to view and preview images on and also, and most crucially, it develops the image itself and saves it to memory. It's like a pocket developing lab, all done electronically. It's no wonder that a standard AA battery is nothing but a light snack to the energy-hungry digital camera. To feed the little monster you need power and lots of it. It's also handy to have back up supplies of batteries when out and about. As far as power itself goes, the batteries are rated on mAh, which is the current the battery produces, multiplied by the number of hours that it will give it for. The bigger the number, the more shots and reviewing you can do before it packs up. Typically, a 1200mAh battery can now be seen as lightweight, only good for powering compact cameras. A 1600mAh output is an average power for a battery while a 1800mAh battery is useful to have.Plugs directly into wall without the need for a separate adapter, and includes 4 X AA batteries (2600mAh). Also charges AAAs. Other benefits include a built in safety timer to prevent over-charging, and an LED indicator to suggest when charging is complete. Charges two or four batteries at one time and includes 4 x AA batteries (2500mAh). Also compatible with AAAs. Other features include automatic cut-off to prevent over-charging, negative delta V cut-off function and bad cell detection. Comes with four 2000 mAh batteries Also compatible with AAAs. Average charge time: 3 hours At 90mins charging time it is one of the quickest chargest of the test. Another thing that makes this charger stand out among the rest is that it plays a musical tune when the batteries are ready for use, meaning you don't have to keep checking their progress. Will charge either two or four batteries at once and is compatable with both AA, AAA and 9V batteries. Product does not include batteries. Capable of charging either two or four batteries at once, it has an LED indicator to suggest when batteries are being charging and when charged and also includes car adapter for charging on the move. Includes four AA batteries (2700mAh) and also charges AAAs Also includes a car adapter and four AA (2100mAh) batteries. Also compatible with AAAs.With 4 battery slots, it will charge either two or four batteries at one time. It has two LED indicators, one for either side of the charger, to suggest when the batteries are in the process of being charged and when they are ready for use. Includes four AA (2700mAh) batteries and is also compatible with AAAs. Average charge time: 8 hours.Mains adapter can be swtiched between 100 and 240 volts making it suitable for use worldwide. Will also charge AAAs. Having said that, I would expect a faster charge time than four hours for one of the highest price chargers of the test. Comes with four AA (2700mAh). Other compatible batteries include AAAs. It has LED indicator, car adapter and a handy audible tone to let you know when your batteries are fully charged. No batteries are included with this product. There are two LED indicators - one for each side of the charger, and an automatic safety switch-off after nine hours of charging, which is the maximum time required to charge any capacity of battery. Also compatible with AAA's.Average charge time: 6 hours. This signifies the amount of current the battery will give multiplied by the number of hours that it will give it for. The larger the number of mAH, the quicker the batteries will charge and the longer the battery power will last for. New to ePHOTOzine? Join Today! By using our service, you agree to our use of cookies. OK Learn more. Plugs directly into 13A socket. Ideal for heating up water for drinks when on the move it can be ea. Would you like to see why Find the Needle clients come back year after year to use our service. If so then feel free to register using the link 'here'. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. If you were to charge either types with manual timing to avoid overcharging then you would use much the same formula for the charging times. I have an idea that the automatic chargers for Ni Mi cells are more complex as it is more difficult to automatically determine the fully charged state with NiMi than it is with Ni Cad For a full explanation Google itWhat i am doing is charging a (pmr)walkie talkie that used to have NiCads but change them for NiMI, with same charger.There is also the chance that you are not fully charging them,but no harm in that.Treat them as NiCad but remember they won't switch themselves off like NiCads. Switch them off yourself after the recommended charging time. Mr. HandyAndy - reallyMakes me laugh it does really.the self styled electrical giants reduced to a palpable mass.oh well at least we live in the real world. Please upgrade your browser to improve your experience. They hold their charge when other re-chargable's will lose their charge, even when not being used. Now have 30 off them. Fameart PC15 Charger with 4 x AA Sanyo Eneloop Batteries - CLEARANCE A superb price deal on this top quality Ni-Mh battery charger which is supplied complete with four superb AA Sanyo Eneloop batteries. Eneloop batteries come pre-charged and ready to use and maintain their charge for a very long time COMPARED WITH NORMAL Ni-Mh batteries. Eneloop batteries are rechargeable up to 1,000 times and are capacity rated at 2000mAh and will offer you excellent performance. The Fameart PC15 charger plugs directly into the mains (UK 3 pin) and is able to charge both Ni-Cad and Ni-Mh types as well as AA or AAA size batteries (in sets of 2). With built in IC timer and auto current selection.Just weighing up if this is a good deal though. I got the new Duracells, and they're above 4000mAh and cost ?13 for 4, but no charger. Please tell me more. Eneloop are great - I'm still very irritated about the set in one of Baby Harper's toys that have disappeared - either I don't know which toy they're in, or grandad has replaced them and chucked them out! If you find a post saves you money, gives you useful information, or you agree with it, take a second to thank the poster! They're these ones: Although that's really really cheap. I can't tell you how good they are yet, as they're being used in variable-use devices, a wireless keyboard and an arcade stick. But neither has run out so far after a few months. But makes the eneloops more of a bargain!! I think your Duracells are normal rechargeables. Not the same thing. Eneloops are great for infrequent use, but not for high drain devices. GP do Recyko, and Uniross Hybrio. Duracell have their own version too - can't remember the branding used for that. The capacity of these hybrid batteries is less than normal NiMH rechargeables but as I say the key flipside is they hold their charge. Normal ones, if unused, will lose charge, and if you do that often, they become useless. If you paid ?13 for 4 of those, even 2650mAh, I'm sorry to say you were ripped off! If you find a post saves you money, gives you useful information, or you agree with it, take a second to thank the poster! I think your Duracells are normal rechargeables. If you paid ?13 for 4 of those, even 2650mAh, I'm sorry to say you were ripped off! To be honest, I saw them and decided to treat myself, and considering I've been using some 1000mAh cheapies, it's not really a problem, but the Eneloops may be better for what I need. We're a journalistic website and aim to provide the best MoneySaving guides, tips, tools and techniques, but can't guarantee to be perfect, so do note you use the information at your own risk and we can't accept liability if things go wrong. Its stance of putting consumers first is protected and enshrined in the legally-binding MSE Editorial Code. By continuing to browse you consent to our use of cookies. You can understand more and change your cookies preferences here. Money Money Loading. Campaigns Campaigns Loading. Services Services Loading. More from Which? More from Which? Loading. Navigate around Which. Search Which ? My account My account My account Hello View account Log out My account Log in Join Search From what features you'll need to how to save money - use our expert tips to choose the best charger for you. Whether it's your first time buying a charger or you're replacing an old one, it’s worth knowing what extra features are worth paying for. Below, we explain what you need to know about battery chargers - including how to get the best from your charger. A battery charger with lots of features, such as a charge indicator, super-fast charging or the ability to charge 9V batteries, might be tempting as it covers all possibilities. But you’ll pay more for these extras, so it’s worth thinking about whether they’ll be useful to you. Once you’ve worked out what type of battery charger you want, make sure you buy the best rechargeable batteries to put in it. The best AA rechargeable batteries last nearly eight hours on a single charge and won't leak away their charge between uses. However, the worst AAA rechargeable batteries we've tested lose nearly 20 of their charge if you don't use them for 50 days. Check our independent rechargeable batteries reviews to find the best batteries for your device. Types of battery charger Smart charger Smart battery chargers, also known as delta-V chargers, monitor the voltage levels in each battery and stop charging (or switch to a low trickle-charge setting) when they’re full. Smart battery chargers are usually the best choice for keeping rechargeable batteries in good shape, as they prevent overcharging, which can reduce battery lifetime. Some have timers, so they turn off automatically after a set period of time. This won’t necessarily prevent overcharging or undercharging, though. This is because the time will vary depending on the battery’s capacity, chemistry and age, among other factors. Ideally, the trickle charge is equal to the charge that the battery leaks away naturally, so they’re kept fully topped up - ready for when you want to use them. However, keeping them constantly topped up also increases the likelihood of overcharging. Other battery chargers If a battery charger isn't marked as a smart charger or trickle charger, it’s likely to be a more basic model that pumps a constant electrical current through batteries until you unplug it. These models are often much cheaper but it can be hard to tell when batteries are fully charged - and the charger won’t stop charging them when they are. So you risk overcharging, which can cause long-term damage. Excess energy can cause batteries to get hot. However, undercharge them, and they’ll run flat faster. Can you plan ahead to recharge your batteries. Or will you need a quick turnaround when they’re flat. Manufacturers claim that the fastest battery chargers can charge in just 15 minutes, but they usually cost more. The slowest are often cheaper, but need to be left overnight. Our rechargeable batteries tests measure how long different brands take to charge. Super-fast chargers Battery charging technology is constantly evolving, and many smart chargers are claimed to charge batteries in under an hour. They tend to be pricier than other battery chargers, however. Exactly how long it will take depends on the capacity of your rechargeable batteries. In the same charger, higher-capacity batteries will take longer to charge than lower-capacity ones. Battery charger features As you choose your battery charger, you also need to think about: Battery chargers can fit in between two and eight batteries to charge simultaneously. If you’re likely to want to charge a single battery, check the specifications of the battery charger to see whether it can. Most chargers are compatible with AA and AAA batteries. If you want to charge 9V, C or D-size batteries, check carefully for a model that can. The most advanced have digital displays showing how far through charging the battery is, when it will be fully charged and whether it can still receive a charge (so you know when you need to replace it). Then you’ll need to look for a charger with adaptors that fit other power supplies other than standard 240V sockets. Make sure you buy the best - check out our batteries reviews. Battery charger buying tips Smart or trickle charger. Should you buy superfast. Do you really need a charge indicator. We asked hundreds of Which.The most important factors to consider when buying a new battery charger: This is important to 60 of battery charger owners. More than half (51) found this important. Useful especially if your batteries aren’t low self-discharge, and key to 45 of people we surveyed. Check the tech spec in our rechargeable batteries reviews to compare this between batteries. Bear in mind that higher-capacity batteries take longer to charge. But the cheapest chargers we’ve seen cost less than ?10, so you can still use rechargeable batteries on a budget. When we surveyed Which.A fifth (21) spent less than ?10, while just 9 spent more than ?20. Use this as a guide to make sure you don’t pay over the odds. These include battery chargers and rechargeable batteries together. Aldi and Lidl sometimes sell their own cheaper versions. Argos, Homebase, Maplin and Robert Dyas also usually stock battery chargers. If you’re shopping in a supermarket, look out for offers on battery chargers; we’ve seen up to one third off a charger with AA and AAA batteries included in major supermarkets. For more shopping tips, read our guide on how to buy the best rechargeable batteries. Get the best from your battery charger Don’t mix batteries of different capacities or chemistry Different capacities of rechargeable batteries (indicated in mAh or milliamp hours, printed on the packaging) shouldn’t be charged together. This is because smaller cells could be overcharged and larger ones not fully charged in the same session, which can damage batteries over time. Check whether you can charge different brands of rechargeable batteries Manufacturers often recommend that their batteries are charged best by the same brand's battery chargers. This is because they can adapt how the charger works to suit their batteries. That doesn’t mean you won’t be able to charge batteries from different brands in your charger, though. We tried this out with five battery chargers and found they didn’t have any problems charging generic batteries, but were sometimes slower to charge than with batteries of the same brand as the charger. Charging alkaline batteries Some battery chargers are claimed to be able to recharge disposable alkaline batteries. We recommend you don’t bother with these. We tested two (the Deluxe Battery Wizard for alkaline and zinc-carbon batteries, and another battery charger for disposable alkaline batteries) with Energizer alkaline batteries. After two cycles, on average, we found battery capacity had dropped to just 10 of its original, with huge variations. With such unreliable results, they’re not a gadget worth spending money on. Decided what kind of charger you need. We can tell you which rechargeable batteries charge fastest or hold their charge best between uses for the optimum combination. Take a look at our Best Buy rechargeable batteries. Please note the picture supplied is a sample stock photo only. 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